*"I can see both sides to this but there seems to be a propensity these days to say "If you use Poser you should model as well"

*I don't think that is quite true. It' has not been said here. I have read people freak out and accuse someone saying that and they never did. Just offered the advice on how it can be done without spending money. I have even had a pr##k at Daz freak out at me because I said I wouldn't buy a product because I could model it myself. How dare I do that and how dare I to  think everyone should learn to model. Give me an f'n break.

I wonder if Geep gets that BS for trying to show what can be done in poser.

Commercial wise, there are deadlines and buying something to use and charge back is the smart thing to do. To not learn what your software can do is just plain lazyness or more money than to know what to do with.

There are purchases that do help in the building of content and/or for post which are needed after you have learned the basic. I think it's the basics that so many seem to be skipping these days and not to mention the rude comments thrown at you when you do try to help. Why should we help someone if they won't help themselves.? I still help when I can.

"I love pain, if feels so good when it stops."