I must add to this because what I'm hearing others say is VERY disturbing to me. First of all, I do not own Vue 6 Infinite yet but I was about to order it today in fact, until I noticed this thread and started to read all the postings. I want to briefly explain my own history with Vue. I start using Vue 4 a number of years ago and was THRILLED by it! It was such a welcome relief from Bryce which to me, was not nearly as intuitive and easy to learn as Vue 4, plus it had a lot of cool features and in general was a much better program, I thought. Then, I made the leap to purchase Vue 5 Infinite last May and was TOTALLY disappointed!! Even with all the patches the program never performed for me nearly was well as Vue 4 did and so I stopped using it. Well now I'm in a real dilemma about what to do with Vue 6. On the surface, it seems like a great program and the Pre-Release got a really good write up in 3D World, Issue 87, but as many of you have already pointed out the Final Version does not seem nearly as good. I for one do not want to go back through what I already experienced with Vue 5. Please feel free to comment on this post if you wish. Thanks!!!