Impish - IMO - I don't consider it "whining" when people can't get things to work.  Are we all supposed to sit back & say nothing? This product was open beta for months & the final has taken large steps backward in varous areas - the most important being memory handling.  I 'm still using the pre-release - 1 patch back - I had no mem issues in that version so I'm happily "working".

When something is announced as FINAL it should be darn close to it - not go backwards!

What I consider whining is a couple years back when some guy was constantly complaining about blinking stars when EON fixed it & it was proven to be so.  He/She was yakking every week about it.  That is whining.  I was a good "whiner" a year back about copy protection.  What's happening here I don't consider it whining.

It would be nice if we could all be lovey dovey but that's not reality.  I have yet to see any software forum that is how you would like it.  Newtek/Max/C4d etc etc - if they put out buggy software the forums fill up with complaints.