Remember when XP first came out? It went something like this: "I'm never upgrading to XP; Windows 95 works just fine." "I'm not upgrading to XP until they fix the driver issue." "We have had all kinds of problems upgrading to XP, so we had to go back to the previous install of Windows ME" Vista will eventually iron itself out, we just have to be patient. A new OS is a big deal, and Microsoft isn't about to take this upgrade lightly, so time will heal all wounds. As for Mac vs PC (why does there have to be such a thing?): Mac users can be quite vocal about their boxes, almost to the point of having a chip on their shoulders (some -- not all). Some will spout off about how bad Windows OS is, then brag that they can run Windows on their Macs (if it's so bad, why do you want to run it?) Others will gladly concede, like rational people, that the Mac OS has it's ups and downs and never trash talk the PC folks. I find PC folks to be less gung-ho about the actual owning of a PC and would rather talk about its sheer versatility. Some, however, will do whatever they can to downplay the usefulness of a Mac and use every opportunity to make Macs looks too expensive or too this or that. What it all boils down to is this: If you own a Mac and are happy with it, good for you. If you own a PC and like what it does for you, I'm happy for you. No one should bad-mouth their competitors to sell a product, so I agree with PhilC on this point. If you have to resort to a slander campaign then you must be trying to play catch up. I'm very disappointed in Apple for this highly misleading series of ads, but unfortunately, it will probably influence people to buy their product.