I've always thought that M3 was two evolutionary steps backward with regard to life-like, physiology/musculature. I think M2, although not as complex as the Universal Binaries--mesh and morph-wise--still has no peer when it comes to full body realism for the Poser male figure. David fixes some of M3's problems--like his ridiculous, taffy-neck, but D3 has issues all his own. Let's hope Mike 4 will show some of M2's original artistry and design. Just my two cents...