Thanks all the website address given to me by RCOOK worked perfectly . I am on a broadband cable modem with a MAC G3 and it turns out the "culprit "this time was was my very own ISP, ComCast Communications, running some client ID checks in my node area My high speed service with them ( $39.95 month) has been so rock solid and reliable this year I am Willing to give them a pass this time But the firewall will stay vigilant!!! Mocap