You know I don;t usually get into these discussion for 2 reasons, I don;t concider myself an "ARTIST" of any type, I'm an engineer by training, and second I usually don;t think it's worth while arguing about what is "art" 'cause I only know what i like looking at. But if I see one more person write "Why don;t you make your own models", like Poser models come out of thin air! I MAKE Poser models, and sell a few here and there. I'm happy to do that because 1) I feel like I'm contributing to SOMEONES art, 2) It pusts a couple of bucks in my pocket, and lastly I just plan LIKE making models. In the same vein I wonder just how many pieces of ART that chap has made with 100% of his own models, backgrounds and HOME WRITTEN SOFTWARE? Poser's a tool, like a brish or a pen or the Friggin' SOFTWARE written by other people, that make ALL 3D ART possible! Frickin' arseholes should get a life and admire ART as the way ALL of the TOOLS are used and worry less about how made what tool!

sorry for the rant, I'm just having a bad night I guess. I would have written this over at that other site but any place that promotes that type of think ISN:T someplace I want to sign up for!

mike