polygon count, huh ? Vicky2 vicky body (weirdo?!?) is the best for Joints parameters and posing (animating?) Vicky2P4 (still going weird ?!?) is funny to play with and some parameters seem to have changed but is not as efficient. Nevertheless these are great models and textures, i wonder tough if they haven't reworked the P4 body in a much deeper way than it seems...