Ivy Envy on Apple Isle... After a marathon effort I have it working on my Core Duo. It's far from ready for primetime but here's my first attempt. Apple Logo made in Bryce then exported, imported into Ivy still running in xCode and covered the top in Ivy. Still many warnings and some strange bugs to kill, but after killing 100's it's nice to have something working:-) Warning: I don't know C++, never seen the QT framework or GLee before. So this project may never reach a stable, sharable application. But it's very fast:-) Cheers Kaveman