The CR2 files contain all the new morphs ... basically the obj of vicki normal is the same but all the new tweaks and stuff are in the cr2 so if you distributed the CR2 it would be like giving away a free victoria 2. I am guessing from what colm said about Syyd's approval that it is okay to morph the heck out of her using those same dials and give a one shot morph that has been slimmed down so it can't be used in other programs without the root obj. hope that makes some sense to you S Still trying to make sure on the whole morph thing myself