heyas; laurie; i dont believe that is his problem. although images do seem to be projected backwards through planes. so using -1 for the x and y scale will flip them around properly. THIS problem looks like the ol' 3-tile centered/uncentered problem. jim, if the image has the bar at the top, like where you want it on the plane, then try setting the material scale to 3 instead of 1. and also i think you need to set the material to object space, not world. you might also need to set the x/y offset to half the picture x/y length, but you might not need to.