I am getting very frustrated, here. I tried all of what you all said...am getting everything from white topped eyebrows, to the same ol clump I had in the first place. Pervers, you are using plain vicki2 right on that example? I had no problem whatsoever with doing the trans on her...It is this P4/v2 one that is really geting my panties in a bunch. (I am like on render 90, now.)