Hi Fox-Mulder. I've used Vue also and think it quite good. But at this point it doesn't do anything that I want to do that I can't already do with Bryce so there is little incentive to change. If Vue 4 does indeed bring new features I want I wouldn't hesitate to move to it. I am loyal to my personal needs, not a mere piece of software. I did find your comment that Vue may especially appeal to those with fine art talents ironic. I say this because I prefer Bryce and lately have been selling work in precisely those "fine art" circles. In truth I am not selling a lot yet but it is increasing and I'm gaining a small local reputation. Fine art is a diversified thing. In my imagination I can see artists like James Tissot or Jacob van Ruisdael choosing to use Vue if they lived today. But others such as Dali or Warhol or Chirico seem to be Bryce candidates to me. Artists like Edward Hopper or Pail Delvaux could go either way. But there is no reason that we must choose one or the other. I am lazy so always prefer the tool that gets the job done in the most expedient and easiest manner possible. My preference for surreal and abstract work leads me to Bryce as the more suitable tool. I can do the former with Vue but have difficulty with pure abstracts. On the other hand, I've done a few scenic and animal nature images and thought they would have been much easier to achieve in Vue. I've been able to find very few, if any, surreal or abstract Vue works on the web. If anyone knows of any I would appreciate a url.