THanks for the reply.......so let me get this right. We save the pz3 and export the object as per normal. However, Vuemaster makes a folder in the poser directory with all the relevant info. So when we open up vue, and say import obj..we point it in the direction of the folder vuemaster made and all is well? Ok..so how does vuemaster know when we have made a file, so that it can create the folder....and do we still have the rotten trick of having to play with the eyelash/eyebrow transparency stuff like we do now? I did write to Dan ..but not at the address u listed..I wrote to him at the infor@zenwareonline addie. I guess I should have waited, but this whole concept got me too excited. LOL Mike ...do u know if he has a demo version of vuemaster available? I know he does for zen painter and tile ? (I forgot its full name) ps. Typing 101 is out for the summer break Mike, so I guess we will just have to deal with Typos are we ;] Take care hun Beck