naw man... traveller, you dont need to write down stuff. you replace the blobby bodyset figure with the p4 figure, and keep geometries. 2nd planet: i know you're disappointed with these... but theyre not really for nude figures. theyre more for like... if you have a crowd on a street corner, and you dont want everybody to be the same height and weight... and they should have clothes on. :) fatsy and fatso are probably better for 'real' figures. diane: the swans arent on my page, theyre at poserworld. :) but the swan page should mention that.