Hahah! Thanks for that I really needed a laugh. Please don't misunderstand I am not laughing at you because of course you are right. I should be able to do that especialy since I have been using Poser 4 for so long. But I could NEVER for the life of me learn to use magnets. I have tried and tried and tried. I have gotten so frustrated I gave up. Believe me I wish many, many, many times I could have learned in all the years I have been tossing Poser rendering around...would have made my blithering life a lot easier. However....... :(