meltz opened this issue on Apr 01, 2007 · 143 posts
kobaltkween posted Mon, 16 April 2007 at 4:45 PM
um, drifterlee, some have had images pulled for having thumbnails with only text. otherwise, i personally would do that. and it keeps coming up because it keeps being a problem. just as a mention, again working on the web for years, if your users keep having a problem with your site and you don't fix it, you'll keep hearing about it until you either don't have the problem or don't have the users. no matter how many users post saying, "the link is right there," or "i don't see the problem with how this app works," if it's a problem for a "large proportion of members," then a minority of people who do have the problem will say so.
the same way people who don't want to hear about a topic will post cat pictures, despite the ease of just not reading the thread ;D. people make different choices, and react differently to the same things. it would be boring otherwise.
tyger_purr- that is a very long post saying exactly what i already linked to. tv ratings are through one body, and voluntary for both broadcast and cable. you are the one conflating premium and standard channels, and presuming that for some reason a single corporation would bother to have a different standard for standard cable stations and broadcast (in addition to the difference between premium and broadcast), even though there's no benefit in having more than two standards, no evidence they've implemented more than that, and the shows would still get a different rating.
but getting away from specifics, i can say i've seen the same videos with the same bleeps, the same episodes with the same gaps, and the same ads on broadcast and standard cable. the whole reason this keeps coming up is because most corporate media, the media most people experience, is pretty consistent across distribution methods, while here it's very different. if everyone had to be a lawyer to obey the laws, then they'd be broken a lot more frequently than they already are. things have to be consistent to be instinctively understood and applied. i'd say being simple and consistent is the most important aspect of usability, and that goes for anything from web apps to kitchen appliances to civil engineering.
karen - we're still talking cross purposes. first off, you asked how to make this more clear. your standards are obviously unclear, or there wouldn't keep being problems. it's that simple. you're keeping them, and that's fine, it's just against clarity and usability. but you didn't ask, "how do we keep things unclear?" you asked, "how do we make things more clear?" it has nothing to do with being happy, or liking things. it has to do with a solution that does what you say you want to acheive and is usable. if you don't have the flexibility of changing implementation, fine, but it has nothing to do with me changing anything i've said. if what you wanted to know was, "how do you suggest we change our support?" that's an altogether separate question, but already answered.
i didn't say restate your rules that people are already having a problem with. i said show examples. not talk about examples, show them. of real art work. if you can get permission, of real mistakes people have made, in either direction. for instance, instead of restating rules that don't have anything to do with any of the problems i've seen posted, why don't you actually post versions of thongs that are ok and ones that are not ok? especially if they include popular marketplace items? as another instance of ambiguity, iirc, in one thread, it was said that an image that actually did not have a nude figure would have to be tagged with a warning because it looked like the figure was nude behind a shield.
but the best thing i can say is analyze how daz does it. because i've never seen anyone complain about their rules, other than for figure textures in their store. but then, i've also never seen anyone get a warning or banned for posting inappropriate materials, either. mods just edit the offending image(s) (in the forums, the only one of the galleries is partially open).
and on that note, i'm done. i've made my recommendation and more than said my piece. i don't intend to debate nuances of tv programming standards.