Guess I am too new to the poser game to have considered the V3 male pack as the solution.. Thanks for the suggestion. Now to see how bad I can butcher things up.

SoCalRoberta, yes they are very close and thanks for the product suggestions. I searched the store here and elsewhere using brother, sister, cousin, relative, related, cousin. I never would have found these if it wasn't for your help. Thanks a ton.

Thanks to all who have replied so far.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"