Oh, Speed.....reduced to only three lights and it still could not render the scene in a single night; previously the scene did render in about 5 hours (yes, I like Quality over Quantity, I use high settings and I reject the idea of "duh, turn off Raytrace if you have problems..." - duh, like Raytrace is part of what I Paid for, isn't it....or is Raytrace a "future feature not yet implimented but just there to look cool"?)