I appreciate the responses from all of you. I think I just needed to let off some steam, and God knows Microsoft doesn’t specialize in customer feedback. And yes, I’ve seen the Mac ads on youtube; I still say they are too kind.  And I don’t see how anybody can say they are a happy vista user. No matter what you do these damn windows come up asking if you should “allow” whatever function to happen, and you just initiated it. That’s not security. That’s a pain in the ass. And yesterday when it said I didn’t have permission to rename a folder I had previously created, well, that pushed me over the edge. I recently bought an $80 web cam, but now I discover it is not vista compatible either. They did not have to write vista to be so non-compatible with so much existing hardware. And from what I’ve read I’m not the only one having these problems. It's total crap. I just say stay away from it until they take their sweet time in creating the service packs necessary to keep it from being a real hindrance to your computer work, which is exactly what it is. Of course by that time they’ll come out with something else redefining the meaning of user unfriendly!  Thanks all.  marshall