ummm... I started with Bryce, been using it for years, its my favourite app and I can't see anything replacing it. I don't consider myself a newbie, but I still learn something new every day. Everything finishes up in Bryce, one way or another, but I'm also definitely a heretic, being a Wings and GeoControl user (is GeoControl heresy? - I'm not sure). On the other hand I've used Booleans to do diagrams for university projects. So... I dunno.