ok....... as an old fart, I am, IMHO, entitled to quote old saws and sayings until everybody gives in out of self-defence...... and if you believe that, I have this gold brick........ this one was ancient when I was a kid, and is still true.... "If you have to descend to name-calling, you have already lost the argument"
   I love debating things, it's an exchange of differing opinions and ideas........ Argument... I have no time for it.... it's two closed minds that are in a shouting match.
   Hey, dyret, why not? Some of them have pretty good lines. Lou.

"..... and that was when things got interestiing."