Quote - Quote Penguinisto:
"Apparently it wouldn't work too well in full detail from a male base, body-wise. IIRC, Anton is also not creating a female mesh anytime soon (mentioned in that thread as well), so that's out."

Quote Anton from above mentioned thread:
"Apollo isn't designed to do female nudes. But if you are doing clothed females in anything more than say a one piece bathing suit, you should be fine.
A femail mesh figure is simply a time factor. And since I only do Poser now as a hobby, that time is limited to just spare time fun stuff. It may happen at some point but there is no timeline."

Happy to note  that  the door is not closed.

Never said it was, though for all practical intents and purposes, it is not a viable short- or medium-term thing to look forward to. It would be cool if one came out, however it doesn't seem like that will happen any time soon... but we'll table that for now. > Quote -    With user reports raving  non-stop about the excellence of Apollo for the past few weeks...

It's an excellent free figure - it had been on sale for a long time before, and the market seemed lukewarm at best overall during that time, so pricing is a hgue advantage now. To compare popularity of both figures, I did the following seaches in the gallery here at Renderosity (a site where neither figure is sold): #1: "Apollo Maximus" vs. "Michael 3" between 5 months and 3 years ago (pre-free AM, though both were around for that period of time). AM: 393. M3: 1000+ (the search filter result limit). #2: Same terms, but this time overall, from yesterday back to 3 years prior. AM: 634 M3: 1000+ (again, the search filter result count stops cold there). #3: Same Terms (again), but only during the period when AM was free (February to present). AM: 222 M3: 232 (this is to discount any arguments about the M3 base being free). #4: Same Terms (yep), but just during the last 30 days, with a huge marketing push. AM: 89 M3: 62 I did that to prove a point which anyone can repeat: As a free figure with (by now) tons of free clothing, AM is wildly popular. At its previous price point(s), it was not, when compared to the free M3 base figure. Now there is one caveat: M3 morphs are still sold items, whereas AM morphs are free. This in turn gives AM a boost, as is also evidenced by the above numbers. > Quote - if  I were Anton I'd postpone my decision to relegate Poser to a mere hobby and get out a female figure while the iron is sizzling.

Why? You (and everyone else) need a solid business case for this if you want to justify the work (and the reason cannot be simply to spite DAZ/RO/RDNA/etc... Zygote (via Brandenburg)'s attempt to do that fell flat with Project:Human (though admittedly Brandenberg goofed horribly in counting on the community to do all the joint params, texturing, etc). I noticed however that you posted this: > Quote - There'd be hundreds if not thousands of ppl happy to pay for his efforts - he'd make a mint!

...but that's another reason why I went to the trouble of posting the stats up there. V3 base is free. A3 base is free. V4 base will soon be free - if history is any indication at all, that is. Good luck going up against that, no matter who you are. AM's own history is proof positive of this. After all, unless there is a market niche that obviously is not being filled, or the product is insanely superior, why would anyone care to shell out the dough for something they can get a near-perfect equivalent of ...for free? Neftoon Gal (neftis) and Alexa (Nesterenko/3DCommune) sold quite well when they came out, because there was nothing in the "toon" niche to compete against (the Aiko 1 figure was designed more for anime), and demand was pretty demonstrably large at the time for a 'toon-based figure. There was also Sara, which was free. Then DAZ began teasing about, then releasing "The Girl", which had just caught the tail-end of that particular craze. > Quote - He'd also be able to market it without outside involvement now.  I wish he'd go for it!

I'm not so sure he would; coupled with the fact that he would have little to no sales plan, or an internal team, to turn a free version into profit (not just cost recoupment - profit), there would be no real point in his building one upon demand. /P