Even if senjin's cards were recognizable right off as cards, that is, white background, suit in the corner, etc. There still shouldn't be a problem and no need to pull the plug on the project. Senjin...you can't copyright ideas. You can't expect that because you decided to use a card as an idea, that everyone from now on should credit you if they want to do a card. If that is the case, where is your credit to the origional makers of the first cards? Or to everyone else in the past who has used a card as a marketing idea? I say let the playing cards continue. This has been great fun and a wonderful thing for the community here. I don't see any toes being stepped on, and there is definately no copyright violations involved, so lets everyone go back to having fun. And senjin? Why don't you join in? If your thing is cards, this community project should be right up your alley. Ang