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So let me just say this about that. I'm making this up as I go along so bear with me.

You work at a company that produces widgets, it's an office job. In theory, everyone stays productive company stays profitable, everyone keeps job. You're bored with your work, and begin to goof off, a couple of co-workers join you. The three of you are having a great time. Going to work has become fun. Others begin to notice and they want to have fun too. Sure, why not... You're not exclusionary, after all you all have the same interest --fun! United Widget Producers production suffers, there are pay cuts and layoffs and soon you have no job. Dang, that's NO fun!

I think that's the issue. It's not that anyone can't join the clique. I've given the recipe in an earlier post. But most people, who have poured their heart into an image and really achieved something remarkable, only to have it completely ignored or overlooked are about as irritated as the Widget worker who keeps his nose to the grindstone while everyone else is at play and still gets laid off in the end.

So maybe the word I want isn't clique, at the moment I'm too lazy to look for a new one. But there must be a word for a group of people who bond together in activities that are counter-productive to the environment their in...

And no... I don't mean "human"! :rolleyes:

 

I agree with you to a point, to a point where working in a company it's a controlled setting where we are obligated to certain performance in exchange for pay.
Here, on rendo, it's a more unconstrained group. Sure, it would be nice if more people rose to the standard of mutually beneficial and community enhancing behavior. I think I addressed that earlier, it is something that I see as a nice thing to strive for, but not something thatI'll get upseot over or feel left out or slighted if it doesn't happen. Perhaps I'm under the impression that there's a hefty dose of self serving and comfort seeking in human nature, and that social responsibility comes in as a pretty distant second or third.

In an uncontrolled environment, such as rendo (as opposed to the workplace) most of the weight of being socially responsible is left up to people self policing. In my experience, self policing in large groups, especially those revolving around enjoyable passtime or hobbies is pretty ineffective. It's usually more effective in sports and professional circles, where the consequences to the individual are greater if they undermine the group.

Here, if/when people undermine the group, the effects are not immediately obvious, but are more of a slow erosion kind of an effect.
I do understand what you mean though, appealing to a level of social responsibility within the group. I'm extremely doubtful that it's something that can be successfully promoted here.  But then again, it would be beneficial to rendo top prove this cynic wrong :)

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