bagginsbill, If you ever sell your works, I would buy them too! You rock!!! ^^ Shaders do render super fast! About color and Nodes -- I'm finding it tricky to control color in the nodes. I eyeball a color and plug it in, only to discover the color is too bright/too dark, too saturated, or the wrong hue. ^^;;; Is there a better way to control color? I have a chart I made with realistic eye, skin, and hair colors. Is there a way I can plug those colors into nodes for hair, eye, and skin? Thanks. bB