didn't ockham have a script to do something - e.g. jiggle or bounce? or mayhap he was working on such a script. p.s. I saw three of those "hunter" animations several years ago, and they didn't have that soundtrak. I don't recall who did 'em, nor whether it was maya or lightwave. it wasn't poser, anyway. when those animations came out, folks were just posting deformed nostril-glow zombies, and nobody was doing realistic animations in poser.