The question is, is which will be better...Vue 4, or Bryce 5? We know basically nothing about Bryce 5...Corel's not talking, and neither are the Bryce 5 beta-testers (as they are not supposed to give out any specifics). From the Vue website, we can see Vue 4 will kick major butt, just being able to open .pz3 files directly into Vue 4 makes it worthy...I guess we will have to wait and see. Too bad Mitch isn't beta-testing both...(he isn't, is he?) AgentSmith

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