Hmm... Wile waiting for some replys I tryd difrent aproce to this problem heres as folows Restarted and Reinported both objects(1,2) Parented 2 to 1.. saved this And adding the sub set to this buy clicking both 1,and 2 It saves and still not asking for smart prop optons. But i reopend what i have saved and poof the both apear as i saved them and 2 was parented to 1 woow I said I think i got it ok So I delet Every thing ex what i saved. Open new figure (MAN p4) added the new props i have saved then parented the 1 to the hand and left 2 alone ok it seems to be running smoth now i wanted to save it like this as a smart prop whre 1 is parent to the hand and 2 is still to 1... ok I save it ask want to save as smart prop "I GRIN WITH EXITMENT" hell yea i want to save So after jumpoing up and down for a min. ok ok Lets try the new saved prop I open it NOOOOOOO only 1 came and 2 was not found :( saden by this i tryd anothere way with the sub sets and it still did not want to save as smart prop. Well PHIc im going to Atemt to try that.. Also thanx gos out to (chromecafe)For all his help!!