Well i have to agree.. this war of the ego is such fun... but to push oneself up the charts by any other means than creating great images of art.. is a bit sad and reminds me of my schoolboy days chasing girls around the playground just to stick a frog down their tops. If you want to harm anyone with the guts to stand up and say whatever they like... get a bigger frog... and get a bigger playground... using schoolboy tatics, does go down well with me at all... sorry to see your images go Dave8, I'll have to have a different respect for people that can make you do that.