Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Is postwork a dirty word?

ashley9803 opened this issue on Jun 11, 2007 · 93 posts


Tiari posted Tue, 12 June 2007 at 3:03 PM

 re·touched, re·touch·ing, re·touch·es

*v.**tr.*1. To add new details or touches to for correction or improvement.

2. To improve or change (a photographic negative or print), as by adding details or removing flaws.

3. To color (recent growth of hair) to match hair that was tinted, dyed, or bleached at an earlier date.

4. Archaeology To modify (a flaked stone tool) by secondary flaking along the cutting edge.

An amusement of note:  Postwork, Post-work, Post Process, Postworking and all derivitives are not found in the dictionary lol.   Something new I learned today.  We use the word, its not in the dictionary how odd!

conniekat: Actually the word retouched is the correct word for fixing or improving a render.  This though isn't an english word class, that wasn't my point.   Its the "idea" of the word we use Post-work, has a stigmata attached to it by some render purists.   I actually find a huge load of big brown stuff (use your imagination) with 3d-art purists, who feel any form of any retouching is sacrelidge.  EVERY image, wether photograph, render, scanned in oil painting can use gamma correction, sheesh lol.  They use it too, they just don't say they do, because correcting gamma or levels well, thats postwork!

Postwork implies post and work, meaning any work done after the initial process..... So drying my dishes after washing them is postwork, flossing after brushing is postwork.... retouching implies a certain media, not generalization.

I know I'll tick a few off, but here goes!  Lemme get into my kevlar for the aftermath!

*Quote - "People like postworking an image made from a 3D program. I dislike postworking. Its either you can 3D an image perfectly with skill, or not at all."
*Or not at all?  Really?  
To assume users who use a 3d program for any other purpose than 3d are in the "not at all" catagory is rather ballsy of you.  That assumes that those of us that use the program or any 3d program who expand it beyond the realm of the render window are somehow unskilled.  Its quite insulting actually, such a vast generalization.  

To say, that someone who retouched an image to fix a figures joint problems has failed some great challenge of elistist perfection of 3d usership, frankly, is beyond arrogant and pompous.  It is my desire and hope that that is not what you meant of the comment, but that is precisely how it reads...... something like, "If you have to use photoshop, go home!".

I have a better question for the general arena, on the subject of postworking/retouching.  Why are people making art?     This is not to say, everyone must have a concrete reason for making art of any kind, but its a question to ask yourself now and again.

What worries me is a slew of poser users...... who couldn't draw, paint, take good pictures, or color coordinate a wardrobe........ buy a copy of poser, pop in some figures and they are "artists".......... and pulling loads of soap box diatrabes of drama on their rights as artists.

There are new users of course, and then there are, "I wish i could be artistic .....wait, lemme get poser".   No names of course, but I've seen that around on other sites as well, canned vic, canned pose, lack of clothes (cant paint them dont want to buy them), with the gray default background.  C'mon now, you know you've seen these!

Its that darn "make art" button that caused a lot of the postwork/nonpostwork issues in the first place.  I get a distinct feeling the rift between those who do, and those who dont will get wider and wider, the more people who failed art class get a copy on their computers.