Is it just me or what? I find that because of all of the beautiful colors in Dolly's border that any color scheme works in the middle of the Card Front, but using my Crystal Ball pic as the Back of the card instead of the background and using Dolly's Border on the front of the Card, would really look good too. So is this what Traveler is talking about? These are the 800X600 size including the white border. Verdie who can't get into the Yahoo Group, already explained that in this thread or the second thread, Dolly. LOL