PerfectN opened this issue on Jun 23, 2007 · 124 posts
Conniekat8 posted Mon, 25 June 2007 at 1:12 PM
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Yes, you definately have a point. I agree that people on the other side of the coin must also be prepared to have the same sort of criticism leveled at them from the opposite camp. My standpoint though stems from the fact that the people who are viewing the nudity have consciously chosen to be exposed to nudity, so vetting that nudity presents a problem for those that use nudity in their art, or for that matter in their canned provocative images (no disrespect intended to anyone here). It directly affects their freedom of expression and the chance to have their work viewed unhindered. As Renderosity says in a great many places, this site is all about art and the artists behind it.
True, I agree with you on most points, except on one. I don't like the gallery thumbnails to be loaded with austentatious nudity, or with austenatious nudity warning. I think the thumbnails should have a level of discretion, and be a fair representation of what's in the image. That way the viewer can choose.
This whole thing is not really about nudity, but about allowing the viwers a decent tool to be able to chose whether to view a certain image or not.
To be honest, I've seen a number of images that have no nudity at all that are still too provocative to be viewed in all social circumstances, and to a degree I think that nudity in itself is being unfairly singled out here, and has taken on a meaning of content not necessarily acceptable to a broad varied audience.
Art and artists and their expression forms are still very much subject to audience's acceptance.
So what happens is, if there are too many extremens, people go elsewhere. Artists and viewers alike.
Quote - Also, i'm sure nobody is really going to expect people to take them seriously if they complain that some people refuse to view their images because they don't want to or are not permitted to view nudity, and have therefore switched it off. That would infringe on those peoples' freedom of choice.
I've seen quite a few complaints from artists saying things to the effect of, it's not a nude, so I'm not getting very many views, or artists all heated up because they made image with a bare boob and have been asked to tag it as nudity.
Quote - It is a contentious issue. I just feel that the lesser of two evils (or weavels for movie fans) would be to have a clear-cut line which people may cross at any time, ie nudity or no nudity, and then rigidly stick to that with the TOS. There are obvious exceptions to this of course as dictated by the law in many instances and accepted global moral standards in others..
We have a content advisory for nudity. A small thumbnail allowing a person to get a general idea of the nature of the nudity (close to what we have now) IMO is suffioent. I can usually see if it's going to be a tasteful nude or a crotch shot by seeing a thumbnail of the whole image, and the thumbnails are small enough that if anyone is looking over my shoulder will not see enough to be offended.
What makes for uncomfortable gallery browsing in general social circumstances are closeup and sexually suggestive crops of T&A.
Quote - The only other real possibility that I can see is to have 3 categories instead of 2. Say for example 'no nudity', 'tasteful nudity' and 'in-your-face nudity'. When artists submit their work they would then have to understand that if they are submitting a really risque image, the chances are good that it will go into the third category and not the second.
I'd love to have three or four gallery categories for a lot of reasons.
LOL, this would cause even more contention, but it would be nice to have a PG rating to the images. G, PG, PG13, R, NC17 and X... LOL and a DDD ;)
That way one can see the softer nudes, and not have to be exposed to NC17's and DDD, or Y shots.
I could just hear it... I know it's a crotch shot, but his goodies were all tucked in, so it's not really a crotch shot ;P
What a logistical nightmare that would be!
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