Chippsyann opened this issue on Jul 02, 2007 · 79 posts
kobaltkween posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 3:08 PM
ooooooo-kay. didn't see that brouhaha coming.
ClawShrimp - yeah, i'd say that pic shows a lot of apollos looking pretty much the same. yeah, different proportions, and different weights, but they all look very apollo. i've seen great characters from apollo, but not a single one that broke out of the apollo look.
can i say that about any other figure? ummmmmm, i think i've seen some z-brushed characters for p4 and m2 that were completely different, but i think that's because p4 is free and m2 is either free or typically people's libraries. i've seen some very custom m3's and v3's, but vicky and michael are considered the default figures by many. maybe now that apollo's free, people will begin to treat him similarly. it's hard to say when most of his users are also fans. the usage i'm talking about primarily treats the base mesh as a generic male base and imposes a totally new vision on that base. you just don't do that if you love the base figure.
basically, i don't think it has a thing to do with the quality or versatility of base figures or their included morphs. trying to argue that you can make a figure look not like the figure is kind of useless. figures have styles, and really, i've only seen extensive custom morphing by someone other than the original creator move past that style. which makes sense, right? i mean, most artists have a particular style, and anything they do is going to be in that style. i'd even say it matters more than base mesh. the new sixus1 lycan pack looks more like each other than any of their base figures. alice and kielo look more like each other than their base figures.
if someone doesn't like an artist's style, they shouldn't purchase or download from that artist, simple as that. is apollo incredibly versatile? you betcha. but trying to argue that you can make him look not like apollo with built-in morphs to people who don't like his look is a losing battle.
m2 isn't a bad base, and he has a good deal of versatility. boris is typically excellent capsces work. but many still found him too "mike," as karen1573 mentioned. that's not an insult to his creator or capsces' work, or a reason to try to prove her wrong. and other characters' strong points aren't reasons to try to convince those who do love m2 that they should switch.
edited to add: i do think it's relevant to mention if a figure takes to custom morphing well. frankly, that kind of technical assessment is way beyond my own capabilities, so i'd have to take others' words on that. that said, since apollo's morphs are highly variable in scale and still render without distortion, i'd bet that his mapping and joints make him easier to morph. but that's pure speculation on my part.