cool cheers Svdl!!!!!!!! i would get them free anyway, from mothers work, someone there is testing out vista at the moment, but from what i've read so far it doesn't look too great at the moment anyway, but they also said that XP pro was like that when it came out too.

is there not going to be a problem for me with that 8800 being directX 10? will that still work with poser 6 and Vue 5 Inf?

i plan on upgrading both sometime soonish, but might need some time because i think i want PainterX first, not sure how much that is yet.and maybe C4d (looks in empty wallet!)

Thanks very much for your help along the way here Svdl, much appreciated, and thanks for everyone elses input too. all very helpful advice.