Paul Francis, ICM and drawbridgep I've always considered all three of you guys to be talented and creative souls, no matter what software package you have used and I've seen your posts over at cgtalk and have thought that the crits were very biased against the software used and disregarded the talent and experience expended to put together the artwork. Actually, with Bryce being a low end app, it takes more knowhow and knowledge to produce a high quality image than one that has been created in the expensive programs. To get Bryce to produce is truly an accomplishment.