Yeah, the De Espona stuff is amazing in detail,though expensive, but those collections from geo-metricks look great. I'm real glad you posted that Smallspace, because their "24 Urban Cars" collection looks liek exactly the type of thing I could get alot of use out of. I've never heard of Mesh Factory--- thanks Jody, I'll have to look into it. .................... As an aside, have any of you ever considered that their just simply aren't enough hours in the day for all of this?.......