Quote - If I keep posting to this thread all will finally figure out I have nothing to say.

See "tales from the crypt" by electroglyph, March, 2005.  The whole posting is a great chuckle if you haven't seen it.  And, yes, it does apply to this thread.

I agree with that.  And since I joined(earlier this year?), I have seen countless rants, and yes, I have ranted a few times too.  I'm upset about the fact that just because it's done in poser and you can see a naked chick, it's art.  Some of the renders are pretty good, and I do know some of the frustration of trying to get Poser to work.  I had an absolute nightmare making Bryce work, as some of you remember and gave a lot of advice. 

I don't consider the renders I have made art, but I like them.  I know they are no where near the level of what some other people here have done, but I like them, and they all came from my head.  But I do consider them superior to some other renders I have seen, BECAUSE they came from my head, and I pieced them together bit by bit, not loading it up after someone sold it to me, and tweaking it's pose, or taking it's clothes off, and uploading it and calling it all mine.

I don't make props.  I wouldn't call them models.  And I do not call what I make art.  I pull what I have in my head out, and render it to the best of my abilty.  I am better at making something with my hands, than on the computer.  But I like it, on and off of my Lappy 3500.  So, If I have offended someone like I normally do daily, I'm sorry.  I really didn't mean to.  But I do feel better now, and hopefully at least some of you do to.  Or did I truly tick someone off and get myself banned?  Oh well.