Conniekat8 - I happen to love Vue, I do most of my renders in this great program. I mentioned it because it does give some people problems. I only have 1GB of memory so I have to manage my work carefully. GI & GR are a godsend! You will love your renders Connie if you want realistic lighting.

vince3 - There's a new Starbar? I have to try it, I loved these when I was younger. :tongue1: