...I've used Vue since version 2 and I haven't seen anything in Vue work as fast as the way they work using Dreamlight's packages. That's because they are OPTIMIZED by a Pro who really knows what he is doing...

Sure- while Vue has the capabilities for doing great multi-pass renders, there isn't any package out there like Dreamlight's at an AMAZINGLY cheap price to do these kinds of EFX.

I did my scene above in a matter of only a few hours- including starting from "0" with DAZ Studio. I read the DS manual, Dreamlight manuals and his tutorials- and then did my scene and the final composite in Photoshop.

Like I said, there is NOTHING like this for VUE, on the scale of SPEED, PRICE or FEATURES.

If you want to do this in Vue- you need to INVENT ALL OF IT yourself! ...That's my main POINT- this is READY and working NOW...and it's CHEAP... there is nothing like this available for VUE and I can't even find any Multi-Pass tutorials available for Vue- however, the Vue manual DOES discuss it- but not to any degree of usefullness other than the theory of it.

Actually, I was bugging E-on, as I have about many features- some of which have finally shown up in Vue 6- but support for Multi-Pass and Compositing in Photoshop was something I was telling them about back when Vue 3 came out...They dragged their feet for many years until finally getting learning from the MAX, MAYA and LW people that these were features the pros wanted...

As usual, the Vue forum run by Agiel is extremely CLOSED-MINDED about any new concepts- Agiel is a simple little "Gate-Keeper" and E-on was forced to grow beyond their tiny little mindset in Paris by the fact that it was either that or go out of business...

DAZ  has also not been the brightest company when it comes to developing software... they are extremely LUCKY that Dreamlight has come along and dropped these Gold Nuggets in their basket...

Also I have learned that RDNA is getting ready to set up a DAZ Forum... I think it's a wise move on their part...