I D/L'd her about 2 minutes after you said she was on the Funstuff page and think you have done a remarkable job with her. I'm still playing with the various poses included and she is responding as expected. The hip, knee, shoulders, arms, wrist... all seem to be very smooth. This is one time I certainly don't mind going back to a P3 figure. I can't wait until you get Poser 4... look out world! Would the joint parameters apply to a P4 version as well? Thanks so much for all your hard work. Regards, Bill Newc...I suspect it is because the world is trying to D/L her all at once. 8^)