Veritas777 opened this issue on Jul 22, 2007 · 18 posts
Veritas777 posted Mon, 23 July 2007 at 4:59 PM
No, that's cool, Agiel! A bit of sword fighting is fun, and I apologize for getting too personal... I just think it is to E-on's BENEFIT to have a more open forum- that is OPEN to NEW IDEAS! That's always my intention, anyway... Many years ago I was regularly beaten up in the old Forum- when it was just Poser and Bryce- because I was showing my VUE renders! People said I was FAKING THEM-- or using LIGHTWAVE! (nice compliment!)-- and I was eventually THROWN OFF as I was NOT ALLOWED to post renders other than POSER or BRYCE...heh!!!
MAN- People can be SOOOOO Closed-Minded!!!...Yet the NEW owners of Renderosity seemed to see that having a DIVERSE set of software ideas was a good thing- and it made Renderosity grow like crazy! They right away established the NEW Vue Forum- then other software platforms, etc.... so anyway- that's why I always get a bit "bent out of shape"- as I LOVE talking about NEW ideas I've seen from other programs...
Bruno- DS still does not handle animation renders correctly, according to Dreamlight. He wants DAZ to fix whatever it is that causes the errors. Since I don't do ANIMATION- I don't care...heh!
But reguarding Animation is a professional environment- like say Disney- they would use the above Gypsy Wagon scene as a matte background- THEN they would OVERLAY splash objects (sprites) to make the rain drop EFX animated. One thing I notice OVER AND OVER with many artists here who do 3D is how LITTLE they work like the PROS!!! Pro Animators-- like PIXAR, etc, use LOTS of 2D EFX in their "3D" renders- like Disney, etc.. that because it's MUCH FASTER and the public "thinks" it's 3D!... Because people try to do ALL 3D effects in Vue, etc... they have HUGE LONG render times...Pro's CANNOT work like that... Time is MONEY, etc.
For Pro's it's not about ART-it's does the Director and Producer ACCEPT IT??? and does the Public BUY-IT???
It's like years ago, I- and many other Vue and Bryce artists too, heh!--- used to try and do UNDERWATER scenes using GLASS or WATER materials because it was "SUPPOSED" to be like water...!!!- But then you FINALLY realize... HEY-- why the F@@K do you need the incredibly SLOOOOOW render times- when you can just FAKE IT using a bluish-green ATMOSPHERE INSTEAD?...Actually looks much BETTER and renders 90% FASTER... yet you STILL see artists trying to do WATER and many other EFX- without THINKING about what the final purpose is-- to make SOMEONE ELSE "THINK" it is "Underwater"--or whatever the EFX is supposed to achieve...
Which leads me back to Mood Master- it's a HUGE Time Saver for creating DEEP ATMOSPHERIC EFX-- yet many people are KILLING THEMSELVES trying to render these same EFX in a HEAVY 3D ATMOSPHERE...Sure you might say---WHAT about ANIMATION?--- It can be done with Animation TOO- and that's often how the PROS render their DEEP EFX- and do the POST-WORK in a scene composition software program- all the MAYA, MAX and LIGHTWAVE software is made to work like this...for COMPOSTION in 2D!...
Check out the new Photoshop- it's supports VIDEO (Animation) composition EFX ---Photoshop is now bringing to everyone what the previous expensive 2D Composition softwares have been doing for years...