Oh I definately understand the point of artistic choice, where the person just wants to see how far they can go - how real they can make it.

The problem is those that don't - or those that disagree on what makes something realistic.  To me a reflective floor is not realistic, nor is a lightbulb in every picture.

It goes well past floors and lighting too.  Any hard surface, it's almost to the point of being expected now and if you don't produce that reflection your art is "flawed".  If you don't have a black arrow pointing out the lighting your art is somehow less.

I guess what I'm saying is my opinion of realistic reflections apparently differs from what others think.

Then also you take into consideration the "art is beauty" point.  Fine if your going for that just leave the realistic idea out of it because honest to god a 38DDD woman with a 20 inch waist doing her hair in the wood table reflection is just not realistic no matter how neato her skin shader is.

I probably shouldn't have gone there with the boobs because that's a whole different topic in the realism discussion but I don't feel like rewording now.

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