thefixer opened this issue on Jul 30, 2007 · 17 posts
keenart posted Mon, 30 July 2007 at 11:29 AM
They are talking about the UAC. Which is one of the Security features of Vista. Vista is really security conscious, MS wanted to go farther than the DEP, Data Execution Prevention Module, so one of the new features is UAC.
So what you do to install a program that is not Vista Compatible and Vue is not, is to ignore the Disc Install screen, and Browse the Setup Disc instead.
Find the Vue Setup.EXE file, then right click on the Vue Setup Program and from the Properties Menu click Run as an administrator to Install with Administrators Privilege.
Once the program has installed, then navigate to the Vue 6.exe file that runs the prog, right click on the exe prog and then from the Properties Menu, select the Compatibility Tab. Under the tab check the following;
Run this program in Compatibility Mode for Windows XP with SP2
Disable Visual Themes
Disable Desktop Composition
Disable Desktop Scaling on high DPI Settings.
Run This Program As an Administrator.
It is very important you check the above, as Vue cannot call the Shell with Aero installed, and so will refuse to open if the above items are left unckecked. You also recoup vital system resources that Vue can use by doing so, 5 to as much as 20 percent of Ram is returned to the system, with the above features disabled. If you need to recover more resources, let me know and I can tell you how to recoup another 5 to 15 percent of Ram. These features are only disabled when Vue is running not at any other time.
With the UAC enabled, after all of the above, you will get flagged with a UAC Control Shadow Screen that wants to Cancel Vue, or Allow it to Run. You just select Allow to run Vue.
Personally I like Vista, but then I have a lot of OS experience, and so can get around the OS without problems. However, if concerned, I would go with Windows XP Pro x64 for the current, since Vue is more, but not completely compatible, with this OS. You can always upgrade to Vista, or try a Dual-Boot later.
The basic problem with Vue is that it is not a true Windows based program, it is a core that calls a Windows Shell, and that is the biggest reason there are so many incompatibilities with the Windows system. And, the new Visual Studio 2005 API’s that Vue is using. Vista is still using the Visual Studio 2003 API’s, so go figure???
Another problem you will have with the Vista install is the Video Card Drivers, when using Vue. Vue seems to balk when you use NVidia drivers older than series 101. Windows XP typically uses the 97 series drivers, which are more stable when Vue is running. NVidia has some very new Beta’s for all of these programs if you have to upgrade the drivers. There are a few other problems you may encounter, but we can discuss them if they occur later.
jgmart
The last Patch for Vue included the API library for the Visual Studio 2005, which was not included with the original install. This was to stop the Side by Side warnings many of us were having. It invoked the UAC, realizing that Vue was not a true Windows program. And any program that UAC sees is not DEP dependent, and Vue is not, it will disallow automatically. Ergo the Selection Screen to start the app.
Some will tell you to turn off UAC, I would not, this is a second Firewall, and without UAC Vista is vulnerable to hackers and a lot of new Malware. Just my opinion.