Thanks for the compliments - I feel enthused to tackle another long and lonely night :-) And thanks to pnevai. Yep, your scale is about the smallest element in there. It's the lacing (red)and really ramp up the count (they add about 70KB to each pair of scales) and then those beck rope thingies tip the scales at over 500KB!!. I knew I had to keep them small, but it's only in the last couple of days that I've discovered how. Thanks for the instructions on reducing the size. Unfortunately I can't get Poser to export a 3ds mesh that Max will open. When I sort this out, I'll be able to get it down to a reasonable 6 Mega, or so ;-/