As an ex-Norton user, I agree. It's not easy getting it completely off your system, either. It never caught anything it should have anyway. AVG is less a system drain, actually does what it's supposed to, and costs a heck of a lot less. I don't think anyone is suggesting people run without an AV, just run with one that doesn't choke your machine, or set off alarms every time you turn around. As an aside, I've spent more time at DAZ since the makeover, and have had no problems navigating or purchasing.. and using Opera, that's not the norm. (Nor do I find DAZ an eyesore.)