Thanks nandus :) I think you will really like Vue 4. We are all just panting for it ;). We really love Vue 3...even with it's few drawbacks it's a wonderful tool (and you can't beat those plants!). I used to use Bryce myself before I got Vue 2 (then version 3) and it's been on the shelf collecting dust ever since. You can achieve a more painterly look with Vue that you just can't get with Bryce. And although I am fascinated with what others have done with Bryce, for me it was too hard to learn whereas Vue was a snap. The interface is so simple and the material editor a breeze! Of course when I saw the plants I knew I had to have it :) I have always given the credit for my entry into Vue 2 solely because of Guitta Bertaud's wonderful floral images. When I saw those, I was hooked! Laurie