Quote - thats just stupid old me There's no need for self-flagellation simply because the rules of the board prevent you from calling anyone else stupid. Believe me Khai, I know what you were saying and what you would prefer to say. Just for the sake of the argument, suppose I e-mailed e-frontier and continued to make honest posts in this forum. Would you really be any less annoyed?

I don't know what you think I'm saying here.. I said exactly what I wanted to say and with the exact words I meant to use. if you read anything else into my posts other than the words I use with their meanings as given, then you, and only you, are putting those meanings there.

I'm not annoyed and not been at all.
. I just think talking to EF would be more productive than posting here. an example would be talking to Nissan to get a design fault in a Ford car fixed... you'd talk to Ford correct?