after a long reading session

Weeeeell, as i'm a poser user, i think i could expose my opinion about this.
The main matter is to tell if poser users are less or more valuable as 3d modellers. Honnestly, there's no reason to ask this question, because judging a picture by the tools used and not for its own quality is the most snobbish behaviour possible.
Orbital and Analog X have compared this hardware as a "barbie playing". In the facts i can't really blame their opinion, because it's a kind of simplification of its "way of creating", loading character, clothes figures, setting poses etc etc etc... So, compared to others picture fully modelised, are these works less valuables? The most i can say is to see what was the creative mood.
For sure, making a picture fully with poser (not renderig, making) is really faster than pure modellisation, but i don't think it automatically means there's no.... artistic or rationnal behaviour behind. Some people complained to see a lot of simplist works in the poser gallery, but it's like in any artistic medium, there's always good and bad works, the main problem is about what we (and the users) can do. Let them make not any evolution, or help them by noticing what they have to do? Then come another main problem the "artist" (as any user is called in RR) and the viewers' behaviour about PMP and comments. The ideal behaviour is to try to help in any comment, and litsening critics to get better. But for sure, if you don't care about the errors you see or you are not motivated to improve yourself...
The matter is poser, by its simplicity of using, is one of the most popular 3d hardware in these kind of communities. But others artist often combinate poser with others tools like cine 4d or 3ds. Honnestly, i try to interrest myself in the maximum of mediums. For sure the most of the pictures i can see are poser based, i sometime i discover really artpieces, sometimes i see some real horrors. Same thing in the fractal gallery, same thing in the photo gallery etc etc etc...
It's since 15 months i especially use poser as main tool, i try to improve my modelling skills with amapi and cine 4d at the same time, and i recently used 'toshop to finalise my poser works and giving a better aspect. I often take photos (i uploaded someones) and i draw a lot since i'm child (honnestly, i'm rather good in it)  Each picture i do takes me minimum 10 hours of work (making on poser and postworking on toshop) sometimes i finished a picture after more than 30. I always try to have the best result possible finding a natural pose, a good face expression, a right color harmony etc etc etc... Even if i make pin up pictures, even if i use poser, even if i have to deal with the available ressources and i haven't the level to create my own yet, i try to make something good, and i'm sure it's the case for a lot of poser users.
It's true that a lot of users i see in this community with a really high level merit to be better considered, but it's a matter linked to the galleries presentation, and a miss of curiosity of a lot of users. But we don't have to forget why we make art, for sure for sharing this in a community, but especially for our own pleasure...