yes, i cited the kid/emperor image....how much of the credit goes to Body Paint for that image? And I wish they would all give the render times; they never do.

Still, kuroyume0161, few of those examples are the category I am speaking of...what you see so much of in poser...the portrait or body study, nude or not nude, without any machines or much architecture. [disclaimer to avoid going around in circles: I am not saying this is all Poser should be good for, I'm saying that Poser can hold it's own in this category]

Wolf...you are barking but not in my tree. You missed.

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